Warforged 5e – D&D 5th Edition Race

These race details for Warforged 5e include everything you need to know for your game. I also have a list of other DnD reference info available for you on related topics.


Warforged make for an interesting race for pretty much any RPG campaign. They have a mechanical/ magical body, but a living being's soul contained within.

 

Race details for Warforged 5e come from Eberron: Rising from the Last War (which, by the way, could make for an excellent DnD Gift!).


"Pierce was built by design, while you were built by accident,” Lakashai said.

“The soul is what matters, what the shape of the vessel.”

“What makes you think he has a soul?” Gerrion said.

“What makes you think you do?”

-Keith Baker, The Shattered Land

Behold Scyaroth, Warforged Barbarian.

Warforged 5e Traits

Your warforged character has the following traits. A few of the traits give you a choice; consider how your choice reflects the purpose for which your character was built.


Ability Score Increase

Your Constitution score in­ creases by 2, and one other ability score of your choice increases by 1.


These stat increases may not seem incredibly significant, but they make for a terrific combination. Having the additional Constitution makes your warforged character more durable by providing additional hit points and increasing your Constitution Saving Throw.


Having an increased Constitution Saving Throw makes playing spell casting classes easier for warforged, at least so far as keeping us spell concentration goes, should you take damage.


Finally, warforged 5e provide an additional +1 to any other ability score of your choice. Obviously, you should put that point into whatever ability is most needed for your desired class. Though a +1 may not seem like a huge value, it does increase the number of classes you can realistically play by quite a bit.


Constructed Resilience

You were created to have remarkable fortitude, represented by the follow­ing benefits:

  • You have advantage on saving throws against being poisoned, and you have resistance to poison damage.
  • You don't need to eat, drink, or breathe.
  • You are immune to disease.
  • You don't need to sleep, and magic can't put you to sleep.


In my experience, most D&D groups don’t really track things like food, water, or even disease (unless it’s a sort of magical disease or curse, which is often central to the storyline). So, in my mind, the main benefits from “Constructed Resilience” are the other effects.


Having resistance and advantage against poisons and poison damage can be big in certain scenarios. Also, not being able to be put to sleep isn’t something you’ll benefit from very often, but it is extremely nice when you do get the benefit.


Overall, depending on your DM, I have to say that constructed resilience (along with the other perks to being a Warforged, which basically make it harder for you to die) can absolutely contribute to avoiding a DnD TPK.


Sentry's Rest

When you take a long rest, you must spend at least six hours in an inactive, motionless state, rather than sleeping. In this state, you appear inert, but it doesn't render you unconscious, and you can see and hear as normal.


Since warforged 5e don’t lose consciousness while taking long rests, you basically get the Alarm 5e spell going at all times, for free.


It should be just about impossible for anyone to ever sneak up on an adventuring party at night, with a warforged in the group. Short of someone casting a spell like invisibility or at least Silence 5e, the warforged should be able to notice anyone approaching.


Integrated Protection

Your body has built-in defen­sive layers, which can be enhanced with armor:

  • You gain a +l bonus to Armor Class.
  • You can don only armor with which you have profi­ciency. To don armor, you must incorporate it into your body over the course of 1 hour, during which you remain in contact with the armor. To doff armor, you must spend 1 hour removing it. You can rest while donning or doffing armor in this way.
  • While you live, your armor can't be removed from your body against your will.


Having a flat +1 bonus to AC is really valuable, no matter what character class you’re playing as a warforged. If you want to fight on the frontlines, that +1 AC keeps you alive. Meanwhile, if you want to cast spells from the back lines, that +1 AC further aids you with Constitution saves whenever you’re casting concentration spells.


Otherwise, I’d say that the 1-hour requirement to don or doff armor isn’t really a big deal – in probably 99% of cases. Additionally, since shields do not count as “armor” in D&D 5e, it doesn’t really matter that your armor can’t be removed against your will.



Best Classes for Warforged 5e

Realistically, because warforged get a +2 to Constitution, another +1 to any ability score of their choice, a flat +1 to AC, and proficiency in an additional skill of their choice, they can play as any class. Warforged 5e are a durable and flexible race.


That being said, there are some classes where warforged 5e truly excel. Here's the facts for Warforged class combinations, which can probably help you with some great DnD character ideas as well!


Warforged Artificer

The primary stat for Artificers is Intelligence, so make sure that you spend your extra +1 ability point there. Otherwise, Artificer offers so many different ways to play that you can certainly make a warforged artificer work.


Even between the artificer specialists of alchemist, artillerist, and battle smith, I wouldn’t say that any of the three stand out terribly, as a warforged.


If you choose Battle Smith though, you will get a “Steel Defender,” which can help to soak up some damage (not that you need it, already having +2 Constitution and +1 AC). Plus every 6th-level artificer also gets a “Homunculus,” so especially counting allied creatures, warforged artificers can be quite a lot to deal with.


Thematically, a warforged 5e artificer fits in perfectly. Since warforged need to visit an artificer to change their appearance anyways, you’ve got everything you need within your own tool kit. Artificer’s are natural tinkerers, and can imbue magic into items, which is basically exactly what you are as a warforged (one large, magical item).

 

Warforged 5e Barbarian

A warforged barbarian is basically a menace to everyone who stands against them. With your extra hit points from your +2 Constitution, bonus +1 that you can put towards Strength, and natural +1 AC, the warforged barbarian is super tough and deadly.


As a Path of the Totem Warrior Barbarian, your warforged as a bear totem eventually gains the ability to give disadvantage on attack rolls to all enemies within 5-feet of you, who attack anyone but you.


Furthermore, while raging as a bear totem Barbarian, you also gain resistance to all damage types except for psychic.

Though all subclasses can work for warforged 5e, this combination is particularly brutal, as you’re already so hard to kill already. Then, you add damage resistance on top of that, and make it so that your allies are also harder to kill. Totally brutal.


Warforged Bard

A warforged bard may not maximize their advantages provided unless you put them right in the middle of the action, in combat. Since the bard’s most important ability is Charisma, you should use your +1 ability point for that purpose.


Otherwise, the bard’s “Bardic Inspiration” is basically their most valuable contribution to the party. If you have a high Charisma score as a bard, then you can use “Bardic Inspiration” more often, as a Bonus Action.


So long as you can stay in the middle of the fight, enemies should start to notice the value you bring with “Bardic Inspiration,” and then you can put your +2 Constitution and +1 AC to work.


Finally, the “College of Valor” Bard has the “Battle Magic” trait, which lets you make one weapon attack as a bonus action whenever you cast a bard spell. As a warforged who’s in the middle of combat, having that attack really makes the most out of your natural race traits.

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Warforged Cleric

Clerics can take many roles in D&D, including some that fit Warforged play style quite nicely. In particular, you may take a look at the “War Domain” cleric, which provides very useful Channel Divinity effects, such as “Guided Strike.”


Guided Strike: Starting at 2nd level, you can use your Channel Divinity to strike with supernatural accuracy. When you make an attack roll, you can use your Channel Divinity to gain a +10 bonus to the roll. You make this choice after you see the roll, but before the DM says whether the attack hits or misses.


War Domain clerics provide options for the class to fight in close combat, which favor Warforged. Additionally, the extra Constitution from Warforged and +1 bonus to AC help create a somewhat tanky cleric character.


It’s also worth mentioning that in addition to providing additional HP at level-up, the bonus Constitution that Warforged receive also makes it easier for them to maintain concentration spells when taking damage. Since clerics have so, so many buff or debuff effects that they can use as concentration spells, the extra Constitution is a very nice bonus to have.


Just imagine casting cure wounds or bless 5e as a warforged who's so durable already that you basically can't die...


Warforged 5e Druid

There aren’t incredibly strong synergies between the Warforged 5e race and the druid class. Of course, every class benefits from having additional HP and AC, which Warforged naturally provides. However, the best case scenario for a Warforged 5e druid is to be in the middle of combat as probably a “Circle of the Moon” druid.


Circle of the Moon druids feature more physically powerful wild shape forms, providing the character with more healing options through “Combat Wild Shape,” higher CR wild shapes through “Circle Forms,” and even “Primal Strike” to overcome damage resistance.


Warforged Fighter

When it comes to D&D 5th edition, the Warforged Fighter has become a popular choice among players. The sentient constructs, forged for war, possess unique abilities that make them formidable on the battlefield, particularly in the role of fighters.

This is really a class where Warforged 5e truly excel.


A key strength of the Warforged Fighter is their versatility. With their proficiency in all martial weapons and their ability to choose from a wide range of fighting styles, Warforged Fighters can adapt to various combat situations.


Whether wielding a greatsword with unmatched strength or dual-wielding weapons with finesse, these mechanical warriors can excel in any combat role.


Furthermore, Warforged Fighters possess a unique ability called Integrated Protection. This feature allows them to embed armor into their bodies, granting additional protection without the need for external equipment. This not only enhances their durability but also frees them from the burden of carrying heavy armor, enabling them to move swiftly and strike with precision.


Combine the high Constitution and innate AC of a Warforged with the fighter’s ability to deal tremendous amounts of physical damage, and you can see why this combination is so powerful.


Warforged Fighter Playstyles

The Battle Master subclass is a popular choice for those seeking tactical prowess. With access to a variety of combat maneuvers, such as disarming foes or tripping them, Battle Masters excel at controlling the battlefield and providing strategic advantages to their allies.


Additionally, the Champion subclass is a straightforward yet reliable choice. With improved critical hit chances and increased durability, Champions become unstoppable forces on the battlefield. They are the epitome of a classic fighter, relying on sheer strength and resilience to overcome their foes.


Personally, I love the improved critical hit chance that a Champion provides. It’s so fun for to me, rolling lower numbers to deal huge damage. This subclass isn’t fancy, but it gets the job done.


Lastly, for those who prefer a more magical approach – not that you typically would, playing a Warforged –  the Eldritch Knight subclass is an excellent option. This subclass combines martial prowess with arcane spellcasting, allowing Warforged Fighters to cast spells and enhance their combat abilities.


With access to spells like Shield and Absorb Elements, Eldritch Knights can bolster their defenses and adapt to different damage types, weakness, resistances, and immunities. This could be a fun subclass to roleplay, though I have to say that it would likely not be as “strong” in combat as the other subclass options.  

Warforged 5e Classes

Haru here is actually a human nether knight, but his armor and weapons make him look like a perfect Warforged - just for some inspiration for you!

Warforged Monk

Warforged 5e monks have become a popular choice among players in Dungeons and Dragons. These unique characters combine the mechanical prowess of the warforged race with the disciplined combat techniques of a monk.


Warforged, as a race, possess several inherent advantages that make them formidable monks. Their integrated armor grants them additional AC, providing excellent protection in combat. Additionally, their composite plating ability allows them to add their proficiency bonus to Strength (Athletics) checks, making them highly skilled in grappling and other physical maneuvers.

Moreover, Warforged monks benefit from their racial traits, such as the ability to resist poison and disease. This resilience can be crucial in battles where such afflictions are prevalent.


So, what makes a Warforged monk good? In short, it’s their combination of high AC, proficiency in various Skill checks, and resistance to poison and disease make them durable and versatile combatants.


Additionally, their racial traits synergize well with the monk's core features, such as Unarmored Defense and Martial Arts. This combination allows Warforged monks to excel in close-quarters combat, delivering powerful strikes while remaining agile and protected.


Warforged Monk Playstyles

Now, let's discuss the choice of subclass for a Warforged 5e monk. The subclass you choose will greatly influence your playstyle and abilities. Here are three popular options:


  1. Way of the Open Hand: this subclass focuses on unarmed combat and control. It offers abilities such as Open Hand Technique, which allows you to knock opponents prone or push them away with your strikes. The Quivering Palm feature is particularly potent, as it can deliver a lethal strike to your foes.
  2. Way of the Four Elements: this subclass taps into the elemental forces, granting you access to a variety of elemental disciplines. You can unleash powerful fireballs, summon walls of ice, or even control the flow of water. This subclass adds an extra layer of versatility to your Warforged monk.
  3. Way of the Shadow: this subclass emphasizes stealth and deception. It grants you abilities like Shadow Step, allowing you to teleport through shadows, and Cloak of Shadows, which grants you temporary invisibility. If you prefer a more subtle and mysterious approach, this subclass is an excellent choice.


Warforged 5e Paladin

In the vast world of Dungeons & Dragons, the Warforged 5e Paladin is a unique and formidable character choice. Also, for some reason that I have a little difficulty explaining, it’s actually a pretty common choice among players.


Note that Warforged in general aren’t played a whole lot, so I don’t mean to dissuade you from playing a Warforged 5e paladin if that’s what you really want. I just mean to point out that a number of players seem to enjoy playing a mechanical paladin.

First and foremost, as with every class that Warforged touch, Warforged Paladins possess exceptional durability and resilience. Their sturdy construction grants them a natural armor, making them a formidable force on the battlefield.


Additionally, their integrated protection ability allows them to enhance their armor class further, making them incredibly difficult to hit. This innate toughness makes them excellent front-line combatants, capable of absorbing blows and protecting their allies, which one could argue, is one of the paladin’s primary roles.


Furthermore, the Warforged's unique composition grants them several other advantages. They don't require food, water, or sleep, allowing them to remain vigilant and ready for battle at all times – another often-forgot value that Warforged bring to the table.


The Warforged’s ability to withstand extreme environments makes them ideal for adventuring in harsh terrains, as they hunt down and obliterate evil. Moreover, they have advantage on saving throws against being poisoned and resistance to poison damage, making them highly resilient against certain types of attacks, which they may often face in undead enemies, or when battling dark wizards.


Warforged Paladin Playstyles

When it comes to choosing a subclass for your Warforged Paladin, there are several excellent options to consider.


The Oath of Devotion is a classic choice, emphasizing the Paladin's commitment to justice, truth, and protecting the innocent. This subclass grants powerful abilities such as Sacred Weapon, which enhances the Paladin's attacks, and Aura of Devotion, which provides immunity to charm effects for themselves and nearby allies.


Alternatively, the Oath of Vengeance offers a more aggressive playstyle. This subclass focuses on hunting down and eliminating enemies of the Paladin's cause. Abilities such as Vow of Enmity, which grants advantage on attacks against a specific target, and Relentless Avenger, which allows the Paladin to pursue foes who try to escape, make the Oath of Vengeance an excellent choice for those seeking a relentless and determined warrior.


Lastly, the Oath of the Ancients is an intriguing option for Warforged Paladins who wish to embrace their connection to nature. This subclass emphasizes protecting the natural world and radiates an aura of resilience and hope.


With abilities like Nature's Wrath, which ensnares enemies in difficult terrain, and Elder Champion, which grants resistance to damage and increased spellcasting, the Oath of the Ancients offers a unique and versatile playstyle.

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Warforged Ranger

Warforged 5e Rangers have become a popular choice among players in Dungeons and Dragons.


These unique characters bring a blend of mechanical precision and natural prowess to the battlefield. But are they really good? And what sets them apart from other ranger options?


Their inherent traits, such as their high Constitution and proficiency with medium armor, make them durable and capable of withstanding heavy damage. Additionally, their unique ability to integrate magical items into their bodies allows them to enhance their combat abilities even further.


This means that a Warforged Ranger can be a force to be reckoned with, both in close-quarters combat and from a distance. One of the key factors that make Warforged Rangers stand out is their versatility.


Rangers are known for their affinity with nature and their ability to adapt to various environments. With their mechanical nature, Warforged Rangers can easily blend into any setting, whether it be a dense forest or an urban cityscape. This adaptability makes them excellent scouts and trackers, as they can navigate and survive in any terrain.


Furthermore, Warforged 5e Rangers have access to unique features that set them apart from other races. Their Integrated Protection ability allows them to add their proficiency bonus to their armor class, making them even more resilient in combat. Additionally, their Living Construct trait grants them immunity to disease and resistance to poison, further enhancing their survivability.


Warforged Ranger Playstyles

When choosing a Warforged 5e Ranger, it is important to consider your playstyle and the role you want to fulfill within your adventuring party.


If you enjoy being on the front lines, dealing damage up close, the Hunter archetype might be a good fit for you. This archetype focuses on dealing maximum damage to enemies, making use of abilities such as Colossus Slayer and Multiattack Defense.


On the other hand, if you prefer a more supportive role, the Beast Master archetype might be a better choice. This archetype allows you to form a bond with a companion, such as a wolf or a bear, and fight alongside them. This can provide additional utility and versatility to your party, as your animal companion can assist in combat or help with tracking and scouting.


Warforged 5e Rogue

One intriguing class choice for Warforged 5e is the rogue. But firstly, let's address the question of whether Warforged rogues are good.


The answer is a resounding yes. Warforged, with their unique mechanical composition and built-in enhancements, bring a range of advantages to the rogue class. Their natural armor plating grants them a higher base AC, making them more durable in combat compared to other rogues. This increased survivability can be a game-changer, especially when you find yourself in the thick of battle.


Additionally, Warforged have the Integrated Protection feature, allowing them to integrate armor or weapons directly into their bodies. This feature not only saves on carrying capacity but also grants the Warforged rogue the ability to surprise opponents by concealing weapons or armor until the perfect moment. This can be a significant advantage in both combat and stealth-based scenarios.


What truly sets a Warforged rogue apart, however, is their unique race traits. Warforged are immune to disease, do not require food, water, or sleep, and have advantage on saving throws against being poisoned. These traits can be incredibly useful for a rogue, allowing them to explore dangerous environments, go on extended missions, and remain alert at all times.


Furthermore, their Warforged Resilience feature grants them proficiency in Constitution saving throws, making them more resilient against harmful effects.


Warforged Rogue Playstyles

Now that we've established the strengths of a Warforged rogue, let's discuss what you should consider when choosing this subclass.


If you enjoy being in the thick of combat, a Warforged rogue's increased durability and armor proficiency will suit you well as an Assassination rogue.


On the other hand, if you prefer a stealthy approach, the ability to integrate weapons and armor seamlessly into your body can provide the element of surprise as a Thief, or perhaps – in some rare cases – even an Arcane Trickster rogue.


Consider your character's backstory as well. Warforged are constructs created for war, so think about how this background can shape your rogue's personality and motivations. Are they a relic from a bygone conflict seeking purpose in the world?


The bottom line though, is that if you're looking for a unique and powerful class for your Warforged, don’t hesitate to try out the rogue.

Warforged 5e Character

Back when HeroForge made steel custom minis, my wife and I purchased a few of them for our campaigns. Steel minis naturally have a great Warforged look about them.

Warforged Sorcerer

Another unique combination that has caught the attention of many adventurers is the Warforged 5e Sorcerer. This mechanical being infused with arcane powers brings a fresh and intriguing twist to the battlefield. As always, first and foremost, the question arises: are Warforged 5e Sorcerers good? The answer is a resounding... maybe!


The Warforged race itself brings a host of advantages to the table. Built for war, these sentient constructs of course possess natural armor that provides them with additional AC, and of course the extra Constitution gives them more HP and better concentration saves, making them incredibly durable.


Sorcerers, themselves, are always amazing. They have access to a wide range of spells, including damaging spells like Fireball or utility spells like Invisibility, allowing them to adapt to various situations, which is useful when playing a race that – yes, it’s true – doesn’t 100% fit the class to a tee.  


Of course, the Sorcerer does provide Ability Score Improvements of your choice at 4th, 8th, 12th, 16th, and 19th levels, allowing even a Warforged to gain the necessary Charisma to become a powerful Sorcerer. This isn’t to say, basically, that a Warforged is a great fit for the sorcerer class, but rather that the sorcerer is basically a decent fit for just about any race.


Warforged Sorcerer Playstyles

When it comes to your subclass, I’d recommend taking a look at the Draconic Bloodline build, for both unique features and interesting roleplaying. Imagine, if you will, a sorcerer with a “bloodline,” when your race is actually... mechanical? Interesting thoughts, for sure.


But! The Draconic Bloodline sorcerer gains “Draconic Resilience,” giving you a base AC of 13+ your Dexterity modifier when you aren’t wearing armor, which stacks with your racial +1AC bonus.


Also, at 14th level you gain a pair of dragon wings, which sprout from your back. So, that’s obviously way cool.


Warforged Warlock

The sentient Warforged constructs, forged for war, possess a unique blend of mechanical prowess and, in a roleplaying sense, magical abilities. One intriguing class option for warforged is the warlock, offering a fascinating combination of mechanical resilience and eldritch power.


Are warforged warlocks good? Um, not necessarily, but they can be quite fun!


Warforged warlocks do have numerous advantages that make them formidable on the battlefield. Their inherent racial traits, such as their high Constitution and proficiency with armor, provide them with exceptional durability. This resilience allows them to withstand even the harshest of battles, making them a reliable front-line option for warlocks who choose the “Pact of the Blade,” or perhaps for those who choose “The Fiend” as their “Otherworldly Patron.”


Depending on your desired role, there are tons of invocations and spells available to warlocks that could conceivably complement your warlock playstyle. For example, if you want to be a tank, invocations like Armor of Shadows or Fiendish Vigor can boost your defenses, while spells like Armor of Agathys 5e can provide temporary hit points and damage reflection.


Also, if you cast spells like Hellish Rebuke 5e, with how defensive you already are as a Warlock, you can make it even less advantageous for enemies to attack you.


All of that being said, it isn’t like Warforged 5e get a bonus to Charisma, for warlock spell saves. The only real benefit that a Warforged gives to the warlock class is what they provide in the case of being any spell casting class – which is their bonus HP, concentration save from their high Constitution, and natural AC.


Warforged Wizard

With their unique abilities and versatility, Warforged can make for formidable wizards in your D&D game.


The Warforged’s high Constitution and Armor Class provide them with exceptional durability, making them difficult to take down in combat – which is really important for a wizard class, as the class itself is extremely fragile.


The innate resilience of a Warforged allows one who’s a wizard to focus on their magical abilities without worrying too much about their survivability. This, as you might imagine, is a big benefit.


Additionally, their integrated protection grants them proficiency with various armor types, further enhancing their survivability and versatility. Warforged also possess the Constructed Resilience trait, which grants them immunity to disease and resistance to poison damage.


Warforged 5e Wizard Playstyles

When it comes to choosing a subclass for a Warforged wizard, several options are available.


The School of Evocation is a popular choice, as it allows Warforged wizards to maximize their damage-dealing potential. With features like Empowered Evocation and Overchannel, they can unleash devastating spells that deal immense damage to their enemies.


This subclass is ideal for those who prefer a more offensive playstyle and enjoy obliterating foes with powerful magical abilities.

Alternatively, the School of Abjuration can be a great choice for Warforged wizards who want to focus on defense and protection. The Arcane Ward feature provides a protective barrier that absorbs damage, making the Warforged wizard even more resilient in combat. Or, consider having mage armor 5e on top of your natural Warforged AC bonus.


This subclass excels at protecting themselves and their allies, making them valuable assets in any adventuring party.

Lastly, the School of Transmutation offers Warforged wizards the ability to manipulate matter and transform objects and creatures. This subclass allows them to alter the properties of items, create temporary magical enhancements, and even transmute their own bodies.


With features like Transmuter's Stone and Shapechanger, Warforged wizards can adapt to various situations and overcome obstacles with ease.

Warforged 5e in a Campaign

Our gaming table before a big adventure towards the end of one of our year-long campaigns.

Warforged 5e Size and Other Characteristics

Warforged size is Medium.


As basically the “default” size in D&D, being medium doesn’t change any stats or add modifiers for attacks, weapons, AC, or anything else.


Speed

Warforged base walking speed is 30 feet.


Similarly, a base walking speed of 30 feet is also sort of the “default” value in D&D 5e. This simply means that warforged 5e are not particularly fast, nor slow.


Alignment

Most warforged take comfort in order and discipline, tending toward law and neutrality. But some have absorbed the morality, or lack thereof, of the beings with which they served.


Oftentimes, you see characters like fighters play towards lawful neutral. I personally find alignment to only be much help when I’m first creating a character, as a sort of guiding light for how I want to roleplay.


However, alignment can be quite helpful for your game, so it’s worth thinking about. Of course, as an organic-machine character, you could certainly make the case to play about any alignment you’d like.


Warforged 5e Specialized Design

You gain one skill proficiency and one tool proficiency of your choice.


Though having an extra tool proficiency probably doesn’t matter much (or at all), having an extra skill proficiency is pretty handy.


Also, it just feels good in D&D when your character has proficiency with something. Whether or not that extra bonus to your roll makes a difference on an individual basis, knowing that the odds are in your favor is a major mental perk.


Age

A typical warforged is between two and thirty years old. The maximum warforged lifespan remains a mystery; so far, warforged have shown no signs of deterioration due to age. You are immune to magical ag­ing effects.


Aging is another effect in D&D that most groups don’t pay much attention to. Unless you’re playing in a multi-year (or 40-year, plus) campaign, or your story is based around following a nation or group of people over decades of time, character age usually isn’t even a consideration.


Still, age can be a fun roleplaying component, and if you have something in mind for your warforged related to their age, this race leaves you with plenty of flexibility.


Languages

You can speak, read, and write Common and one other language of your choice.


Having the option for fluency in any other language of your choice is very nice. In my experience, language is probably the final part of a campaign that’s often overlooked.


Perhaps you’ll occasionally run across some cryptic script in another language, where fluency would help advance the story. However, aside from roleplaying, having access to multiple languages most often isn’t a useful part of gameplay.

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Warforged 5e Lore

Need some DnD Quest Ideas or Campaign Ideas to go along with your new Warforged? Look no further.


The warforged were built to fight in the Last War. While the first warforged were mindless automatons, House Cannith devoted vast resources to improving these steel soldiers. An unexpected breakthrough produced sapient soldiers, giving rise to what some have only grudgingly accepted as a new species. Warforged are made from wood and metal, but they can feel pain and emotion. Built as weapons, they must now find a purpose beyond war. A warforged can be a steadfast ally, a cold-hearted killer, or a visionary in search of meaning.


Living Steel and Stone

Warforged are formed from a blend of organic and inor­ganic materials. Root-like cords infused with alchemical fluids serve as their muscles, wrapped around a frame­work of steel, darkwood, or stone. Armored plates form a protective outer shell and reinforce joints. Warforged share a common facial design, with a hinged jaw and crystal eyes embedded beneath a reinforced brow ridge. Beyond these common elements of warforged design, the precise materials and build of a warforged vary based on the purpose for which it was designed.


Although they were manufactured, warforged are living humanoids. Resting, healing magic, and the Medi­cine skill all provide the same benefits to warforged that they do to other humanoids.


Warforged Personality

The warforged were built to serve and to fight. For most of their existence, warforged had a clearly defined func­tion and were encouraged to focus purely on that role. The Treaty of Thronehold gave them freedom, but many still struggle both to find a place in the post-war world and to relate to the creatures who created them.


The typical warforged shows little emotion. Many warforged embrace a concrete purpose-such as protecting allies, completing a contract, or exploring a land-and embrace this task as they once did war. However, there are warforged who delight in exploring their feelings, their freedom, and their relationships with others. Most warforged have no interest in reli­gion, but some embrace faith and mysticism, seeking higher purpose and deeper meaning.


The typical warforged has a sexless body shape.


Some warforged ignore the concept of gender entirely, while others adopt a gender identity.


The more a warforged develops its individuality, the more likely it is to modify its body, seeking out an artifi­cer to customize the look of its face, limbs, and plating.


Warforged 5e Quirks

Warforged often display an odd personality trait or two, given how new they are to the world. The Warforged Quirks table contains example quirks.


Roll 1d8:

  1. You analyze-out loud-the potential threat posed by every creature you meet.
  2. You often misread emotional cues.
  3. You are fiercely protective of your friends.
  4. You try to apply wartime discipline to every situation.
  5. You don't know how to filter your feelings and are prone to dramatic emotional outbursts.
  6. You don't understand clothing beyond its utility and assume it denotes a person's function.
  7. You are obsessed with your appearance and con­stantly polish and buff yourself.
  8. War is the only thing that makes sense to you, and you're always looking for a fight.


Warforged Names

Most warforged were assigned numerical designations for use in military service. Many of them adopted nick­names, often given to them by their comrades. As inde­pendent individuals, some have chosen new names as a way to express their path in life. A few take on human names, often the name of a fallen friend or mentor.


Warforged Names: Anchor, Banner, Bastion, Blade, Blue, Bow, Cart, Church, Crunch, Crystal, Dagger, Dent, Five, Glaive, Hammer, Iron, Lucky, Mace, Oak, Onyx, Pants, Pierce, Red, Rod, Rusty, Scout, Seven, Shield, Slash, Smith, Spike, Temple, Vault, Wall.


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August 7, 2026
Transcribed content from our recent YouTube video: https://youtu.be/XjrHg-Eexds Transcription [00:00:00] Welcome back to the Eternity TTRPG YouTube channel, where I cover different happenings in the tabletop role-playing universe, as well as talk about the game that we have been working on, um, with the Eternity TTRPG. So we have been covering all nine of the races that are in the Eternity world, and we only have two left, so I'm gonna cover those two today. It's gonna be the Esper and the Stoneborn. These two are my personal favorites because they were the races of my first two characters. So hopping right in with the Esper. The Esper can actually be any race, um, because they're a part of a world incident. Okay, so this world incident is that a star fell to the world of Eternity. And when this star fell, it let [00:01:00] off all of this magic stardust and just covered the skin of the beings that were there. So if you were a human that was there, you would be covered in now these, like, runic constellation kind of tattoos, right? So that could happen to humans, Jadori, Treants, um, Aeteri, Empyrean, if you've been following along for a while and know those other races, right? So the thing about Esper is because they're covered in all of this magical stardust, they have really high magic casting abilities, right? So they're gonna be really good in your classes that focus on that casting. I personally played a summoner with this class the first time, which a summoner, you get to have a familiar with you, and I chose a dragon, and it was all about, like, buffing that dragon. So my idea was that this star being [00:02:00] was channeling all of the stardust energy into the dragon and making it stronger, bigger, faster, and hit harder. Um, it was a really fun character to play and a really cool take on an idea, right? Um, of course, there are a lot of ideas that you can go with with this, um, star incident that happened and how to interpret that into your world, into, um, how your character roleplays and everything, because maybe you're an astronomer that wants to understand what happened and why did the star fall from the sky. Real quick to interrupt. Eternity TTRPG is releasing a card game battler which emulates combat from the D&D tabletop role-playing genre. Sparks of Eternity: Emanation is fast-paced, easy to learn, and features six classes from your favorite TTRPGs. Each class deck comes with its own set of unique abilities, which everyone plays at the same time, so there's never any downtime at your table. Each turn, everyone's [00:03:00] characters levels up, giving players access to even more options. If you're interested in taking a look, we have our pre-sales page live now, packed with details. No payment info needed. Just let us know if you want an email when the product becomes available. Now, back to your video switching gears to the Stoneborn. So like I said, this was the other class that I played right when I first started playing this roleplaying game. And Stoneborn, like the Esper, can be any existing race. So they had a world incident happen to them, and they can be any existing race because of this world incident. So once again, human, Jadori, Treant, Ateri, Empyrean. Okay? So with Stoneborn, what happened with them is think of like this group of miners went into a cave near a volcano that they didn't realize was a volcano and they're [00:04:00] mining, mining, they have their different veins of, um, geological items that they're going after and one of them strikes just right into one of these veins and makes the volcano erupt and in this eruption there is this, um, organic material that explodes out and this organic material embeds itself into these miners that were there and along with the miners anybody that was in close proximity, um, just outside of this dormant volcano, right? So what this does now is that these people that were infected with the, um, organic stone material is now they crave eating stones, they crave eating rocks, okay? Any kind of rock and based on that rock is what their [00:05:00] being turns into. So if one of these races, people that decided to eat rocks decided to have volcanic rocks, they would have this volcanic kind of monstrous body. Um, however, let's say that a human thief wanted to eat the diamonds they were stealing, they would start to have diamonds appear all over their skin and eventually turn into a diamond. So it's a really cool idea that you can work with, with this idea of shape-shifting and how does the rock change my body and then it leads to the storylines of like, well, how far can this go with the rocks and did I have to be there at that volcanic eruption to become this or does it pass down through generations and what happens towards the end of Stoneborn's life? Um, it is speculated in lore that they actually become statues [00:06:00] based on all of the rock that they've consumed. Um, so is there a reversal for that or is there just a completely different story that needs to be fleshed out? Um, with the Stoneborn being, um, you know, made of rock, like a box of rocks, um, they have very high strength because rocks typically are very hard to break, right? So this idea with really high strength makes them very good as like your berserker classes, your thief, your assassin. Um, I personally played this, um, race as a, um As a mixed class, that was a caster/um, melee fighter, and it turned out really good. It was really fun. It's actually one of my favorite characters. I always thought that my, um, Stoneborn was a human that ate, like, icy rocks, so they were blue and frosted and really cool, right? I can still picture that in my mind, and that was a campaign that I wish had finished, [00:07:00] but it didn't. Maybe someday I will go back to that character, though. So that wraps up all nine of our races that we have in the world of Eternity. Um, in upcoming videos, I do hope to go over all of the classes now. There are 30 classes in this game that I will have to get through, so it's gonna take a while, especially with sprinkling in other stuff going on in the tabletop roleplaying community because I know you all aren't here just for the Eternity game. You're here for other tabletop news. So stay tuned, comment, like, subscribe. Let us know how we're doing, um, and we'll keep you updated. Have a good one. Bye.
August 2, 2026
Transcribed content from our recent YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CgZalFW8U8 Transcription [00:00:00] Welcome back to Eternity TTRPG YouTube channel, uh, where I sometimes go over the happenings with Eternity, but I also cover things in the tabletop role-playing world. If you saw our last video, I was talking about the World of Warcraft leaks related to Dungeons and Dragons. Um, Gen Con did happen this weekend, and it turns out that is now confirmed. D&D is having a crossover with World of Warcraft, but this also brings up a lot of ideas that were revealed and what is happening now in the Dungeons and Dragons universe. So with that in mind, let's hop right into it, okay? So as you know, in the last video, I covered the leak with the World of Warcraft, Dungeons and Dragons crossover, and that was a leak from Roll20, which obviously is very ingrained with what Dungeons and Dragons is doing, and it ended up being very accurate, um, [00:01:00] being that we are going to get a campaign setting from World of Warcraft. We're gonna be getting all 13 original classes from World of Warcraft, and we're gonna see what happens there. From everything that I saw in my research that I was doing, is that we're gonna be seeing a campaign from the Icecrown Citadel, which is gonna be, you know, Arthas' world, um, Arthas being one of the big world bos- bosses from Wrath of the Lich King. So I think that'll be something really neat to be looking into. I think we're also gonna be getting some minis that are gonna be, um, supportive in that, um, seeing all the classic, you know, Alliance races, Horde races, and all of their classes. So not really what I was necessarily hoping to see because I think they could have done a lot more with it. But I also think it's gonna bring in a lot of people that [00:02:00] are World of Warcraft fans and, you know, really liked the classic feel of Wrath of the Lich King. Um, the other thing that I saw was a miniature for Illidan. So I don't know if we're gonna be getting anything from his time in the World of Warcraft lore. But given that we saw minis for it, I could see something happening there too real quick to interrupt. Eternity TTRPG is releasing a card game battler which emulates combat from the D&D tabletop role-playing genre. Sparks of Eternity: Emanation is fast-paced, easy to learn, and features six classes from your favorite TTRPGs. Each class deck comes with its own set of unique abilities, which everyone plays at the same time, so there's never any downtime at your table. Each turn, everyone's characters levels up, giving players access to even more options. If you're interested in taking a look, we have our pre-sales page live now, packed with details. No payment [00:03:00] info needed. Just let us know if you want an email when the product becomes available. Now, back to your video so with this crossover of D&D into World of Warcraft, it brings up the idea of the Universes Beyond initiative. So I've seen this in Magic: The Gathering. I think they've-- Magic: The Gathering has done this the most, if not the only one that's done it so far, is this, um, crossover of worlds, right? So Magic: The Gathering did a crossover with Final Fantasy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Spider-Man, and it brought in those crowds as far as the collecting side of it. I think the playing side of it a little bit too, because, you know, you see your classic characters that you like. But Magic: The Gathering did it and now it looks like D&D is doing it. So D&D obviously did it with World of Warcraft, and they're talking about doing it with Star Wars. Um, [00:04:00] so if you're a big Star Wars fan, this is gonna be another way to get into D&D, I guess. Um, what we know about the Star Wars, um, products that are coming to D&D is that details are super limited, but we know that it's focusing on the Rebellion era. So if that is your thing, that is great for you. Um, personally, I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I've watched the movies. I don't feel like I know enough about that universe. Um, so also from D&D, we had the idea that some of the classic settings are returning, like Grayhawk and Dark Sun. Um, once again, I don't know much about D&D because tabletops, uh, were first introduced to me five years ago, mostly through my husband's game, Eternity. So, you know, I read this stuff, but I don't personally know much about it. Um, so you have, like I said, Universes Beyond coming. You have some of these classic settings returning, but you don't really-- [00:05:00] I mean, until we see it, we don't really know what it's gonna be. Um, so with not being able to actually see what's going on and just having this speculation, right, I think it's creating a divide in the community of tabletop of D&D because you have, you know, your fans that are excited to see the crossovers happening with their classic things that they like, like World of Warcraft, Star Wars, right? But then it calls into question of are we running out of ideas? Is the tabletop world running out of ideas or are we just redefining what tabletop is? I was having a conversation, um, just a couple days ago about what tabletop really is and what I see it as. And, you know, I see it as the great idea of imagination. Um, SpongeBob reference there if you didn't get it. But [00:06:00] um, you're just getting to have your imagination blossom as an adult rather than keep it all when you're a kid playing with your, you know, Barbie dolls or race cars or monster trucks, you know? So as an adult with D&D, you're just diving into these other worlds that maybe you wish were real or you wish you could be a part of. But it feels strange because you're an adult, so you call it D&D, and it makes you feel a little bit better, right? Um, but anyway, that's... I just, I think D&D is all about this idea of getting your imagination to roam wild. So if you're gonna be doing that, then let it roam. And if you enjoy it from the World of Warcraft standpoint, Star Wars standpoint, or as I mentioned, the, uh, Avatar: The Last Airbender or Final Fantasy, then let it roll and [00:07:00] let it happen. And if it makes you happy, then great. Um, because I just, I think there are so many things in this world that has already been thought of, but if you get to think about it from your standpoint, then there's more that you get to do. So go be in those worlds and go have fun with it, and we'll see what happens with all of these new releases coming out and what D&D is trying to do for the community. As always, thank you for watching. Um, make sure you drop any questions below, comments, uh, like, subscribe, all that good stuff. Um, let us know what you wanna hear, if you wanna know more opinions, um, and just we'll try to keep it going with all the happenings in the tabletop universe, you know. Have a good one. Bye.
July 28, 2026
Transcribed content from our recent YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3YOVDF4dMs Transcription [00:00:00] Hey everyone, welcome back to Eternity TTRPG. It's been a little bit since I've been on with you as, uh... But today we have back Mildred the Monk, who is a friend of the channel. Uh, we had a great conversation last time. I have reviewed Final Fantasy Legends Edition, and you guys really liked it. Those are some of our most viewed videos, and we just wanted to bring you back on today. Thanks for coming on. Excited to talk. Thank you for having me. I enjoy being had So we're gonna be talking a- about a couple different things today, but let's start with, I think, the thing that the most number of people will be interested in who follow your work, at least as of recently as well, but jobs and classes for Final Fantasy Legend Edition. Do you wanna give people, like, a quick intro for those who don't know about this edition? So Legend Edition I started about [00:01:00] five years ago as originally it was an idea that kind of up, that kind of showed up in my head and wouldn't leave. Um, that idea of, um, taking Legend System, which was a three, a D&D 3.5 hack, um, that was part of the Test of Spite Arena Challenge on Giant in the Playground years and years ago, taking its track system that I thought was very interesting and applying the job system to, that's in Final Fantasy to it. That was the, that was a two-part stream that I did, that I did five years ago. had to be two parts because midway through, um, Mother Nature intervened we said, "All right, we'll do part two when, when, when things clear up tomorrow." Oh gosh. And when we-- And after that, the idea wouldn't leave my head, and I started working on it and working on it, [00:02:00] uh, until Legend Edition formed, which very much is its own beast. Um, there's been a few people who've looked at the fact that I use six ability scores and a D20 as a, as a core mechanic and say, "Oh, this is a D&D derivative." Um, it isn't... It's only that if you look at the barest surface, but looking at the surface is also very, um, shallow. I mean, by... I mean, if you're gonna g- if you're gonna go that low, then, um S- than say the Black Hack is a, is no different than playing D&D even though one's a, one's an aim high, one's an aim low. a better example is, and I've brought this up in the past, that'd be like saying Fading Suns is no different from D&D because they both use a D20. Even though Fading Suns is what I, is what I like to call D20 blackjack because it's about aiming high but also [00:03:00] aiming low Like you're trying I think un- you're trying to get under a threshold, but you're trying to get as close to it as you can Gotcha. Sure. I mean, yeah. I mean, people call tissue paper Kleenex, right? Like, that's just kind of, it's like the shorthand so that people know what there's talking about. But when you dive into it, every TTRPG is different, and Mm-hmm. this is the best version of Final Fantasy TTRPGs that's out there. So for players who wanna play Final Fantasy, yeah that was to estab- that was to establish a, that was to address a pet peeve that I had. And I, Oh? this the last time we talked about, but I have covered multiple Final Fantasy TTRPG projects, it Mmhmm games in all but name like Fabula Ult- like Fabula or Aegis, or direct fan projects like The Returners series of projects and the things that spun from them. And a pet [00:04:00] peeve that I had was a lot of them entirely on the SNES era. Now, don't get it wrong, like four, five, and six. A little bit mixed on Mystic Quest, but that's another story. But I know there's whole generations for whom they have more of an attachment to the PS1 era or the PS2 era. There's a whole generation for who- for whom 13 was their entry point. They speak on that as fondly as you or I might speak on six. There's gonna be a whole generation for whom 14, 15, and 16 have been their entry points. And those people, "Just house rule it," didn't sit with me. So I wanted Legend Edition to be a agnostic affair that draws upon the recurring mythos of Final Fantasy. Um, the exact kind of thing that MJ Gallagher has written several books about. [00:05:00] if you don't know, MJ Gallagher has written books on the mythological ties to multiple Final Fantasy entries. done two on seven, one on 16, and he's currently writing one for Tactics. Oh, nice uh, one on Tactics is going into, is going into things that I think even a lot of Tactics fans have overlooked. Things like ear- things like early Gnosticism, the c- the, um, idea of medieval demonology, and a lo- and a lot of, um, a lot of mythos about Be- about the story of Beowulf and story of the Knights Templar Mm-hmm. As well as the church relationships between Eng- between England and France and, of course, the Hundred Years' War. Taktics is a great game. There's a lot packed into it There's a lot packed into it. A lot Yeah especially the more [00:06:00] Shakespearean parts, is directly Matsuno's doing. And I've had a bit of a theory that the Cid in that one, Cidolfus Orlando, meant to be a nod to, um, um, El Cid, AKA El Campeador, the pr- the Prince of Valencia, who is kind of a national hero in Spain Okay. Yeah, I'm not familiar Mm-hmm. Oh. He was somebody who f- who fought on the side both Christians and Muslims during hi- during his time. Oh. Interesting especially in Valencia, kinda has this, kinda has the same heroic figure status that you'd see of a l- a lot of other medieval legends Mm-hmm. Uh, know if that's actually the case, but when I look at the position of that character, um, I can see the parallels[00:07:00] Sure But I wa- but the idea was I wanted something that was just as viable if someone was doing the high f- the, um, fantasy approach like in, um, like in the ori- like in the original or in three, the steam- the steampunk approach like in six, uh, or the futuristic approach like in eight or 13. Sure There's gonna be some house ruling, but minimal house ruling. Um, I've always held the belief that house ruling should be a spice and not the main dish Yeah, I mean, it's nice for people to be able to play the games the way they want to play. I think that's one of the main pillars of TTRPG is giving people the ability to customize, but also enough here that they can take something and work with it as is. [00:08:00] Uh, 'cause I, I don't wanna customize everything. That's why you're buying the game, right? So should we dive in maybe for some examples? Like, you- there's... What, what was it? Is it 56 classes? Jobs, I should say? around com- combining these, combining the ones from the, um, core book and the Ultima expansion, Yeah about jobs and four classes. Four pluses, right? Okay I do have to... Now, a lot of times job and class are interchangeable. In Yeah, I like the way you did this. Go ahead. Yeah things, and this is somewhat of a nod to the, to the delineation of jobs from the old Returners project that started in the mid-'90s. But it comes, it comes down to there are only four classes, and your class is basically a chassis. This is [00:09:00] what determines how well you develop HP and MP, what stats you're gonna be using for physical and magical combat, and how many skills that you have trained. Um, there are four of them. There are four classes as mentioned. Each of them corresponds to one of the original four crystals. Um, corresponds to the earth crystal, which is basically the per- basically everything physical combat is under that. Um, expert is kind of the skill monkey and corresponds with the wind crystal. Mage is self-explanatory and corresponds with the fire crystal, and adept, which is often the in-betweener, corresponds with the water crystal. There are also there are also a dozen or so jobs that are independent. These are jobs that are not associated with any of the four classes because when you're building a character, you're picking three [00:10:00] tracks. one that has fast progression, one that has medium progression, one that has slow progression. Any of the jobs are available. The only rule is at least one of them has to be associated with your class, and each, um, each class has about 11 or so jobs that are associated with it It doesn't have to be the first pick, it just has to be one of them. Oh. For ex- for example, um, the jobs associated with warrior are berserker, dervish, dragoon, fencer, fighter, knight, monk, samurai, sentinel, sniper, and weapon master. Oh. So if you take warrior, you gotta have one of them And this also means that you can't build a character out of nothing but independent jobs Hmm. I see Oh. Independent jobs are, I guess that, I guess I put them in the same category [00:11:00] as, like, prestige classes because they do re- they do re- not in the sense of you need to a bunch of stuff in order to qualify for them like you did with prestige classes back in the day. knows I'm not doing that. I did, I didn't like how some of those prereqs worked. more that th- they, the kit that they have demands a slightly higher system mastery, like a slightly hi- a slightly higher understanding of the way the mechanics work. And within the book, I have a disclaimer say basically saying, "You can pick th- you can pick these as your first character if you want to, but we do not recommend it." I see. Sure Of course, if you do do it and then you complain that it's too hard, don't come crying to me about it because you were given fair warning I love how when we were playing, [00:12:00] um, there are so many options. Mm-hmm. I think the replayability factor is gigantic with this game, 'cause even I hadn't thought about it too until you just mentioned it, but like I could be a warrior and then have the same three classes, but then I could play a different, um... Or, I'm sorry, the same three jobs, right? So I, I could have like a warrior class and then three jobs, change my class to something else with those same three jobs, and my play experience could be s- substantially different just based on my hit points, mana difference, skill difference. Not even to mention... um, weapons Yeah, and, and limit break. So the way that you play even the same three combination of jobs could be completely different. And I mean, not to mention the fact that you already mentioned there are 60, six- like a big, 6- 60 of them, right? So [00:13:00] I mean, it, it's, it was cra- it was... One of the hardest things was choosing what I actually wanted to play. Yeah also love that because it's like if you don't like it, just, you know, next time you create a character just build something different. Like I consider this the better form of analysis paralysis. Like a lot of Yeah, sure is in a game, it's more of wanting to pick a dis- to make a pick that's going to screw you over two or three sessions down, Mm-hmm. uh, or having to pre-plan your idea multiple levels in advance, which just creates false choice, which is also not ideal. Yep it's there are so... Instead, there are so many really good options that you could do that Right. is a good problem to have. That's a great problem to have a lot of the jobs are gonna be very familiar to people who have seen the job system as it's been presented over the years. Mm-hmm.[00:14:00] there are a few that aren't n- there are a few that are from adjacent games like Bravely Default, and there were a few that aren't in any of the video games, but I wanted to fill certain niches or certain motifs that I felt didn't quite fit any of the existing jobs Yeah Oh. And some of them are, the name is there where, where that name has been in past games, but the way it's executed is different to give it its own identity. Oh An example that comes to mind is the Arcanist. Um, I think one of the, one of the, of, one of the cases where Arcanist showed up is in Final Fantasy IV: The After Years. But ultimately it was just a black mage with a couple extra tricks, I Sure. Mm-hmm Then I looked [00:15:00] at the, um, Japanese version of the Arcanist job and it, and the translation for that is basically witch. Um, and I thought, "You know what? Let's build one around curses." So we Yeah, that's cool Um, and since you mentioned limit break, I will touch on that. Yeah conscious choice to not have limit break be some sort of uber attack Yeah I know that those w- I know that those kind of things are a staple Final Fantasy ever since VI. Um, VI technically first introduced it, VII obviously popularized it with a limit break gauge instead of it being a hidden mechanic. But at the end of the day, those are just jumped up versions of attacks, and for a tabletop system where you don't have the flashy effect to give a, Yeah signpost, that's not all that interesting[00:16:00] Not really. Yeah Especially since if I were to do it as a gauge, I would have to calculate out how the rate of gain for that gauge for any potential kind of attack. And to reference Batman Forever, it just raises too many questions Yeah, that's a dark hole of game design for sure. Mm-hmm. It's easy to miss something. You're dealing with a lot of interchanging pieces here with all the different jobs you can combine. I see the problem. Yeah So instead, I took inspiration from the game breaker rule that Fantasy Craft has. Fantasy Craft is one of the games I've listed as inspiration. It's one of... It is my favorite take on the 3.5, um, of the D20 system. I put it even above Pathfinder, that's how much I like Fantasy Craft in terms of sheer volume of flexibility. [00:17:00] But At a certain level, in- classes in Fantasy Craft have what is in turn, what is called by a lot of the homebrew community a game breaker, something that the class can already do just at a hi- just at a higher level. Sure Um, you sort of have something like this in video game form with the two-hour ability that was in Final Fantasy XI, which was this, um, improved version of what that job could already do. You just couldn't, you just could only do it once every two hours. Not once every two hours, it would've had a two-hour cool down. And the approach with this is you can activate a limit break when you're below half health. It lasts until the rest of the encounter, and is essentially an improved version of what that class already does. Uh And the catch is you have four limit breaks, three from your jobs and one from your class[00:18:00] Yeah Each of the... And when you activate one of them, you are locked off for the rest of the encounter from the other four, or from the other three, I should say So to use warriors as example, their limit break is action surge, which lets you make a weapon attack without using your action. You just can only do it once per round. Could you do this to do two attacks in the same round? Yes. You could also do other combinations if you want to as well Oh. You're just getting one weapon attack for free for the rest of the encounter, but some of the other stuff from your, from your job combinations you won't be able to do Uh, and I do wanna, I do want to touch on a moment for, um, the design philosophy we had when it came to feats Because one of the things that I tried my absolute best to avoid when introducing feats was feats that were just number go up[00:19:00] Sure The... There are a couple that are like that, but not in the same, but not exactly. A lot of times it was built on feats are little tricks that you can do to fur- to further personalize the character, and said tricks don't necessarily fit into any one existing Mm-hmm. And I f- I always felt that was the intent with feats when it was introduced in third edition D&D, of little tricks to personalize. somewhere along the l- line, the memo got lost or was put into forms I don't think it was designed for. You know, the whole feat chain problem or the feat tax problem as has been discussed plenty of spaces elsewhere. Um Yeah And to, and to that end, I don't really have a extensive amount of [00:20:00] prerequisites when it comes to feats. of times it's ju- it's just on three feat chains. Usually those ones have some kind of Roman numeral attachment I think a lot of what we're kind of talking about too, back to sort of the d- overall design of things, is that for almost every game out there, there's like ... I don't know if it's just the advent of the internet or now that, you know, all of us who grew up playing games are now adults and we kind of get games more, but there ends up being like the meta builds, right? And so you talk about like D&D and Mm-hmm. there's like this huge problem of like you can't play a rogue anymore in D&D 5.5E 'cause it's just terrible compared to the damage output of so many other classes. Oh, And a lot of people- on rangers. Yeah. Right. Right. And then a lot of people play as if combat or damage per turn or whatever is like the key factor, and if you aren't pumping out damage, then you aren't having [00:21:00] fun, right? But I, I think it's interesting that you've taken this approach with feats where it's like it's about things that you can do for your character. It's about the, the role play and the character building more than just the optimization. But I also think that just the sheer s- way that you've made this game makes it really hard to create any kind of like meta build. Like, maybe if, you know, a hundred thousand people were playing this game every week, there would start to be some patterns emerge, but it seems to me as if you've gone to really great lengths to give every class its own personality, Mm-hmm. I think that y- people would have a very hard time finding anything that's gonna be like super busted basically. It's more about having the fun playing the character you wanna play instead of optimizing every little thing. Yeah. Now, there's a, there's a couple things I can say on that. One,[00:22:00] Sure I will be flat out honest, whether it be in tabletop games, in video games, in war games, in board games, in card games, any kind of game period, loathe meta Me too. Because Me too I am, and I s- I have done my fair share of t- of tournaments, whether it be in, um, card, whether it be in card games. I w- I, I'm not great at it , but I did dabble in tournament scenes in, um, fighting games growing up. Cool I certainly don't do it as, as much these days, but I... But something I did. the reason I hate meta so much is I'm, I grew, I grew up ar- I grew up around a lot of, a lot of freestyle artistry. You know, whether it be Hmm import, the, um, the whole import tuner craze of the early [00:23:00] 2000s, the go- or listening to, listening to early hip hop in the golden age of sampling, j- or just remix culture with, um, music. Or j- or just the idea of freestyling when it came to building, um, stuff with Lego as a little kid. That's awesome. Yeah that idea of expression of building the style that, that fits y- that fits you, not necessarily is the best numbers. And Yeah what really helped hammer this home for me was when I was spending a bit of time revisiting, um, various shooters. And especially re- especially, um, getting an understanding for what the intent of the perk system in, say, early Call of Duty was Mm-hmm Because if you look at the perk list in say Modern Warfare or Mo- or Modern Warfare [00:24:00] 2 or Black Ops or whatnot, it's not about raw numbers. It is about, it is about picking ones that best fit a certain play style that you're trying to go for. Yeah Uh, like for example, somebody who picks scavenger probably gonna be using a light machine gun, because scavenger lets you get more ammo on ammo pickups so that, so you have more bull- you have more bullet per bullet. And if you're using an LMG, you're gonna be eating through that ammo pretty fast Oh. It's not really, it's not really about the numbers per se. And I've s- a similar thing to an extent with some of the unlocks in games like Team Fortress 2, where not picking them for numbers or percentages, you're picking them for a certain style. Uh, like a common build when I would play Pyro in was [00:25:00] having things like the flare gun and the Axtinguisher. The flare gun is a secondary, lets you set people on fire at range. It's just on an arc so it is a little bit tricky to use. And the Axtinguisher auto- always does critical hits if you're hitting somebody while they're on fire. So you can see how they feed into each other. And there were certain combinations that we saw where we thought this could be a particular annoyance or this could be a particular pest in combat, but it was funny so we kept it. one of the early examples of that that we've brought up and that we've brought up plenty of times over the years is somebody doing Arcanist and Fencer. Because Arcanist is all about incubating a curse within themself and then transferring that curse as a debuff to the next person who hits them. Fencer is all about taunting an enemy to force th- to force them in a duel where both sides get bonuses to hitting each other and penalties to [00:26:00] hitting anybody else There's good synergies for sure Mm-hmm. when it comes to the... There's been no end of arguments about game balance. seen, I've seen it talked Sure f- back and forth. I've seen people talk about balancing issues with this game back and forth. A Yeah me to, a lot of the balance arguments puts me to sleep for the same reason the, um, math breakdowns of classes back when I would follow the brilliant GameZologist forums put me to sleep. Even if I did rip off the whole Godzilla thing as a this is what I don't want. But The, but the, To bo- to dial myself back a bit, um We take an, we take a policy called Brawl Minus when it comes to game balance. The attitude being if everyone's potentially broken on all sides of the fence, no one is. So for a bit of context, Brawl [00:27:00] Minus was a response mod, some say a meme mod, to a mod for Smash Brothers Brawl called Brawl Plus. The intent with Brawl Plus was to nerf a lot of the overpowered elements in Brawl. Um, Meta Knight, I'm looking right at you. know what you did. Brawl Minus took the opposite approach of instead of nerfing the overpowered stuff, just make everybody ridiculously overpowered That sounds like a lot of fun Like, like a fully charged warlock punch from Ganondorf in Bro- in Brawl Minus could be a one-hit, um, knockout. And as ridiculous as that is, still the signposting and still the tells that can be punished if someone knows what they're doing. So as, as overpowered as everything is, there is still an internal logic of if you got hit by something like that, you were ignoring the very obvious tells and that, and [00:28:00] you're getting punished for that. Mm-hmm. you know, in the s- in the same way that I remember when I would, when I would play a lot of Halo 2, and a lot of people hated the glitch, um, BXR. And I had defended it because I, because at the time I had said the timing window for it is very specific, and if you don't get it right, you are going to get punished you just left yourself wide open and you can't hit back Yeah. Things that are strong come with a downside or they're projected so it's defendable against it Mm-hmm. And there is the concept in game design called signposting, where this is where you have those very obvious tells about what you should stay away from or what you should be wary about 'cause something's gonna come. Uh, and when you have the, when you have th- when you have that particular signpost and then you [00:29:00] ignore it, then it becomes your own fault, and you gotta deal with the consequences of that. Uh, think of any video game RPG where you've seen where the, where the game is telling you the enemy's preparing for a large attack, then you don't shore up your defenses and you get wiped Oh, it's the, it's the same principle. And I never want... I, be- I remember being so annoyed when I would see certain game developers take combinations that the community had discovered on their own that were, that added to the fun factor of creatively overcoming obstacles and take that away from them. Uh Yeah, it's kind of a lame approach for sure It's not only a lame approach, but I feel like it sends the wrong message. To me, it sends the message of don't bother getting better at the game because we're just gonna take away your tools. Yeah. Don't be creative yeah, [00:30:00] a big example of this would be Mercy hopping exploit that was found early on in Overwatch, where people figured out that with the right timing using Mercy's movement mechanics, they could clear a lot of ground very quickly. About less than a week after that was discovered, it got patched out Sure. Yeah, I, I, uh, it's a tough thing as a game designer too, because I do also feel you have a vision Mm-hmm. how you want the game to be played, and there are just some things where you didn't imagine it being used in a certain way, and it wasn't intended. And if it does become the situation where it's like, now that we know this exists, Mm-hmm. who does wanna play for the optimal meta build now must do this. Yeah That can take away from the fun as well, but I, I think it depends on, like, your priorities as a game designer. Like, is it is it around the fun? Is it around the [00:31:00] creativity? Is it around your original vision? And y- I often find you have to balance all of those things actually, so th- there have been some times where I've taken away toys from other people as well. Um, but yeah Legend Edition, because it's built around being, being a sandbox, having whatever my specific vision is, is not as important. The only time that I've really modified something so that it ta- so to take away certain tools that I f- I felt were, um, stepping over the line is if, is if I felt it was undermining other things. Um, the, the, um, benchmark that I use for this sort of thing is I don't want a knock spell. Um, I was never a big fan of spells like knock or teleport Hmm or oth- other games. I wasn't a fan of knock because I f- because I [00:32:00] felt it completely undermined the presence of having a rogue in the party. Like, Yeah, sure. why have Right all the time rolling to pick a, to pick a lock when you, when the wizard can cast knock and the lock is no longer a problem? Have the wizard be a rogue, yeah And I didn't like spells like teleport 'cause that, 'cause I felt that r- that took away from the narrative control of the Sure GM. Um, especially if you can tel- especially if you can just teleport right to where the dungeon is instead of having to Sure. thing of fi- of trying to find out where it is. Yeah and in the same vein, I also wanted to avoid things like CODZilla. Uh, CODZilla is something that came out of the tier sys- the tier system of effectiveness that the Brilliant Gamesologist forums, um, devised, where somebody re- the COD is short for cleric or druid, and it was a reflection Okay that somebody who [00:33:00] knows what they're doing with either of those classes is an entire party by themself. Yeah and to that end, when it came to designing the jobs, something that I tried to avoid was the idea of a single job being multi-role. Um, Yeah. I was impressed by that really quick as well. You know, when I was reading through the first time, and I mean, every time I go into it, Mm-hmm. it is very crystal clear what each class does. Mm-hmm. it, it, it's so focused that if it was only one... You could only play one class at a time, it may feel a little narrow, but I actually love that because you're mixing. Mm-hmm. think you, you really lasered in on what each job does and what they're about Yeah. Like for, for example, um, I had, I had gotten a bit of pushback over the fact that with the paladin, unlike s- [00:34:00] unlike plenty of the games, I did not give the paladin access to white magic. Um, part of that was had to answer the question, well, what do, what do you do if you have a paladin and white mage as part of your job trio? now Sure. things that would overlap. You're both... Yeah two, I felt pal- I felt the identity of paladin more centered around covering allies and taking the hits for them rather than white magic. Plus, I've never been a fan of, um, of half casters Interesting. Yeah. 'Cause they end up doing both things poorly in most games. Yes. Yeah. Oh Yeah, they're like half people basically. Yeah, the, the big pr- the big problem with, the big problem with it is doing that s- doing that sort of multi-role is gonna run into conflict when y- when class systems in general are about [00:35:00] specialization. Having a generalist in a b- in a game built around specializations has an inherent contradiction. feel like this is Sure why in D&D, um, the ranger has been cursed since the days of AD&D. Yeah, th- there's no identity there. I mean, I, there's no identity, and I, I think that's probably another big thing, right? Like, they, they don't know what they want ranger to be. You're just like a ranged fighter, but then you're not. But the things that you can do, anybody can do. It's not really that interesting. Yeah, I had... The funny thing is the one edition that I'm supposed to hate but I don't because the check bounced actually solved that issue Um, the fourth edition ranger, I don't have that problem with Oh yeah, I actually like fourth edition. Mm-hmm. It's kind of a bum that nobody else did I, I've, I've been a fan of fourth edition since it started out in 2008, and I have routinely taken the piss out of people [00:36:00] who go with that MMO argument, and I basically tell them, have no idea how MMOs actually work if that's your, um, main ar- if that's your main argument." Um, and Especially s-since, um When it comes to, when it comes to the po- when it comes to the power setup, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that, that so many of us had reference index cards And nowadays you can get whole spell decks for casters Sure But I r- but the Ranger in fourth was one of the premier, one of the premier examples of the striker. real problem that it had was one infamous daily power that got, um, errated out that led to the meme of Kenshiro Orcaslayer, because if you hit, you could keep hitting until you missed. Oh. Um It's like [00:37:00] Thunderfury weapon or whatever it's called in WoW. Mm-hmm. The first- Yeah Yeah, and Orcus was one of the big high-level monsters in the, in Wind theory. Manual. Got it somebody who had the l- had the luck of the dice gods on their side could ju- Yep. keep Just one shot it. Yeah. he runs out. So Yep the And becau- because of that I w- I wanted... Now, with a lot of games, they can have multi-role effects with their classes because you're only picking that one class for the most part. Here, the multi-roleness comes from the combination of your class and jobs, also Yeah the fact that there's plenty of characters throughout Final Fantasy that don't quite fit one particular job exclusively Also because jobs changed between iterations. So, I mean, your solution makes a world of sense Yeah, like the, the knight in the original [00:38:00] Final Yeah. Right ultimately a proto-paladin. Right. Yeah. When you mentioned cover, that was the first thing I thought of Yeah, I th- I think the, when people think of the paladin in the classic sense, the first version they're gonna think of is Cecil in IV. Um, and in that s- in, in that same vein, there were s- there were some casting lists that were easy to design for. The hardest one was Blue Magic because, um, Blue Magic goes literally all over the place in every iteration, and when I That's like the point of it, yeah. Yeah a specific thing was important Right Ah. And I will, I will note that, um, with the ones that I took liberties with, those ones still that rule of I need to answer what exa- what exactly its [00:39:00] big, for lack of a better term, gimmick is. Um, now some got r- some were under other names but got renamed because of things I wanted to avoid. Dynamo was Gunner originally, um, meant to be a bit of a nod to the g- to the Gunner dressphere in X-2. Um, Mm-hmm. that and I said I wanted a John Woo-like, um, job. But of the fact that the job system is divorced from required weapons, which was something I wanted to do from the word go, um, I felt that calling it Gunner or calling the sniper, it was originally Archer, would Hmm Yeah from that So I went with names that were a little bit broader in that sense. and the other reason One of the things I'm obviously the most proud of is the weapon system and the fact that it is divorced from your choice [00:40:00] of job. So you could play a bl- you could have Black Mage as part of your combo and use a long sword, um, and still make it work because in addition to that whole not m- not fitting thing, there's If I were to do a standard weapon list that you see in a lot of fantasy games, there are so many weapons within Final Fantasy that don't fit that Yeah. Yeah, there's so many, yeah. Um, whether it the pinwheel for Noah, yeah yeah, the weird pinwheel thing that Rinoa has, Yeah um the, over- the oversized, um, shurikens that Yuffie has, the fact that hair accessories are the weapon of choice for Red XIII. Um, the Plus the, plus, um, I'd, I would, I'd think of certain unorthodox weapons that I would always pick in [00:41:00] other fantasy games. like I was I think I was m- I think once I was, um, like I was playing a character in an Eberron campaign that involved the desert elves, which are an interesting beast in and of themselves. I said, "You know what? It would fit that, it would fit that my character uses a khopesh instead of a long sword." Um- And isn't anything in the rule set for a khopesh, obviously, so we had to make that up Yeah And I've also mentioned that no matter what, there's gonna be some that has some weapon that ha- that has the same cool factor as when people first saw the Buster Sword back in 1997. Mmhmm instead of telling them, "Just house rule it," which is like pushing them off the deep end and saying, "Swim, damn it." Uh, I w- I wanted to, I wanted to provide a framework where people could make those unorthodox weapons[00:42:00] That's awesome instead, instead of just being Sisyphus having to constantly make new and bigger weapon lists. Uh, and again, for example, I, I know that the... There's the, um, common motif of the monk uses unarmed weapons, except when it doesn't. But I remember in the past pitching, "Okay, instead of, instead of using unarm- instead of using just bare hands, um, why, why not use a... why not use something like, say, a rope dart or a, um, sansetsukon?" Uh, a sansetsukon is a three-section staff Hmm. Okay. Yeah And obviously a rope dart is, well, exactly what you think it is. And I have, I have plenty of players who are firearm enthusiasts, much like me, and I know that they would come up with some unorthodox suggestions, [00:43:00] and I'm like, "Go, go right ahead with it." Um, I know one It's awesome who, who was playing this giant character, he said, "I wanna lug, I wanna lug around a m- a slightly miniaturized version of a punt gun." I'm like, "I'll let you do it, but, but you're... But, um, you can only fire it every other round because it's a punt gun. Those things weren't meant to be carried." Like, for context, a punt gun was a type of ridiculously oversized shotgun for m- for commercial duck hunting that was supposed to be mounted on a small boat, a punt They eventually Yeah, players won't do that good at their job Players will do that. They'll try to do the things that they shouldn't be doing. And, We-- I was gonna say we, we have a little bit of time left. I don't mean to cut you off on that thought, but, uh, once you finish that thought, I would love to go through some more of the classes and like just the, the most broken or [00:44:00] insane or fun stuff that people have come up with so far Um, I will note that from a design perspective, I like giving players powerful but unsafe equipment. benchmark for that kind of thing is if you remember the Noisy Cricket from Men in Black, that, Oh yeah, that was... I love that. Yeah. Oh. You know, That's awesome a hell of a lot of damage, but every time you fire the thing, you get sent flying Mm-hmm. Yeah. Why not? oh, this As far as cl- as far as some of the individual class, some of the individual classes and jobs, as far as some of the ideas, um, I remember being really proud of the way, um, fighter turned out. So a lot of times the fighter has the selling point of, "Oh, you can equip any weapon." But most people are gonna pick one way they equip their character and stick to it Yeah And I, I built [00:45:00] the fighter based on Firion's appearance in the Dissidia games, he's carrying around 10 different types of weapons That's awesome using all, and using all of them in his combos. So like, all right, the fight- the fighter is the walking arsenal. The weapon master is the opposite end. Um- Ah There was also the f- there's also, um, I think there's, there's some jobs that I think got slept on, that get slept on by people. Um, one of them that especially comes to mind is the Spiritmaster. Um, Spiritmaster is a def- is a defensive favoring support, um, But their Spiritism ability is, for those, those of, those who have used it properly, um, have caused a lot of salt because it doesn't remove debuffs, it moves them. It moves buffs as well from any Nice to another participant[00:46:00] That's awesome So it's a really great way to screw over the, B-beg that just put a bunch of buffs on th- that just put a few buffs on themselves. You know, you can have the B-beg go, "I'm, I'm conflicting, I'm inflicting paralyze on one of your a- on one of your allies," and somebody who's got Spirit Master can say, no you don't, and congratulations, now you're paralyzed." Sure. Yeah, it's really incredible Mm-hmm. Uh, and the l- something I tried to av- I tried to avoid was giving h- was giving whole new s- there's plenty of, there's plenty of, um, charac- there's plenty of characters and builds that have some sort of sub mechanic, like some sort of resource or the like, which Mmhmm reason I avoided doing the whole limit gauge thing because that'd be one more thing to track. Uh, but I wanted [00:47:00] to avo- I wanted to avoid, um, a setup that might pigeonhole a particular build or a particular, um, job. Um, like for, for example, somebody wants to just slightly dip into magic, you have multiple ways to do it. You could do it through a spell casting enhantment- enhancement from a magic weapon. could do it by get- by getting scrolls and be- because of the way consumables work, you are gonna be able to use that spell for the rest of the in- for the rest of the in- of, um, that adventure until you hit downtime again. But you do have access to it. just... And that can pair very well with something like ma- with something like Magic Knight, which has more in common with the Magus class in Pathfinder than a lot Hmm the traditional ma- a lot of the traditional Magic Knight approaches. Uh, and [00:48:00] it wasn't long before, it wasn't long before that came up that the idea of a caster build out of Outlaw Star came to be. Um, there's... I've s- I have seen pe- I've seen people, um- Go com- go completely s- go completely support based using c- using a combination of general and, um, and squire. So that they, Yeah able to do a lot of attacks, but if they're patient, they're let, they're gonna let their, um, party do a lot of attacks, especially with things like blade work. Um really liked the looks of Squire. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it, in fact. Squire was a hard one to write for because I bet it was couldn't use a lot of the t- I couldn't use the techniques as is for Squire in tactics because it's meant to be your starter. Um, and instead I built it around the idea that it is this, this ultimate [00:49:00] pocket pick. And think... I will note that th- that, um, a lot of the design with the classes and jobs starts to click if you look at them like you would look at positions on a team sport Yeah, I agree with that Because any team sport, whether it be hockey, whether it be, whether it be rugby, whether it be football or other football, you don't really have a jack-of-all-trades position You have several multi-role positions and usually a, a secondary role as a backup for when the play breaks down, and it will. But you don't have somebody who's supposed to be good at everything Oh. And that was, that was how, that was that was a design, uh, goal that I, that I had. Um, I think you hit that. and- Yeah, it, it's fun too. I'll just interject really quick because I think a lot of modern game design is [00:50:00] about being able to do everything, and every class starts to feel the exact same. Mm-hmm. Um, I've even, you know, played a lot of different games out there that are classless and messed around with them myself with my own design in the past, and I find that people tend to gravitate towards the same things. They're like, "I wanna be able to fly and have invisibility and invincibility." And I actually like it a lot more when you're like, "Look, this is what I do, and then everything else I suck at," because it gives specific spotlights for everybody in the party to be able to jump in and do their thing. You're not always good, and that's part of, I think, the fun Mm-hmm. Ah. And for, for me, I wa- I always saw the high skill floor when it came to people really being able to explore the [00:51:00] potential customizations with s- with job design, and also Yeah of that, that sameyness in some of the more freeform ones. And Yeah. Yeah. games, pe- the selling point that people give me is, "Oh, you can build just about anything." The problem is a Not really. And Yeah. one th- And, And, meta builds. to mind yeah. to go for it especially with, um, false choice as I call it, is Shadowrun agree with it. Yeah, yeah, the idea of false choice is a big one, and I think people who aren't game designers often overlook that. But there's a lot of things out there, it's like, "Oh, you have 1,000 choices," but really it's like, yeah, but do you... Like, do you really? No. It's usually only a few things that are, like, the best. And oftentimes too, if you take something, it's either actively bad or it's so much worse than something else that you actually can't choose it, so it's, it's not a real choice [00:52:00] And I think of, um, I think of Sha- I think of Shadowrun where it ends up having a class system while trying to pretend it doesn't Sure. Sure, sure. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, so I un- I understand exactly what you're saying. Mm-hmm. And on, on the other Yeah um, you know, some g- some designers try to build these traps for some reason. Um Yeah To tr- to try and encourage system mastery. But the pro- I've always ha- I've always had an issue when games have the, try to have this hard divide between the people just learning the system and the people who've been at it for years, with not an Yeah pathway from one to the other I agree And whenever I've talked about that, s- some have con- have equate- have equated that to wanting ha- wanting the handheld, [00:53:00] and that's not the case. it's more, it's more about establishing where, where the li- where the lines are. Um, Mm-hmm. and I feel like what I've tried to do with Legend Edition is those lines end up being created organically because instead, instead of looking at character creation of, in the sense of, "Oh, we, we need a bl- we need a black mage for the party, so who's g- who's gonna be that?" It's more about I have a character concept in mind, and I'm using the tool set to try and get as close to that concept as I can It's awesome Uh, and there's nothing wrong with the idea of, oh, you're building a c- you're building a character class first and then going around it. That's how early D&D works, in a sense. Sure it's not something I think is compatible with f- with, um, Final Fantasy as s- as the series progressed[00:54:00] Yeah Because there are plenty of characters, even in games that are explicitly class-leaning, like say, IX, where they end up fit- they end up fitting the niche of multiple jobs instead of just one. Uh, at, say, um, Amarant in Final Fantasy IX I was thinking of him as well He's basically a hybrid between monk and ninja. Or in Final Fantasy X, look at the territory of, um, say Tidus on the, um, lic- on, not on the license grid, in the, um, sphere grid. Mmhmm a lot of it leans into time mage and squire-like effects. Uh And you have that, you have that sort of asterisk where in a lot of class-based games you're picking this one thing and that's it. But a lot of Final Fantasy characters, [00:55:00] you can't really fit them into that one thing And that's not even getting into the idea that some people might wanna go off the beaten path Right? For sure So with wrapping up, I have a couple more things to cover. Um, one class, for example, that I really wanna play some point coming up for a very specific reason is the Oracle, and that reason is because I can self and-- self-damage myself to get myself to a limit break faster. Are there other classes that, that use self-damage for a bonus of some kind so that, you know, somebody wants to, like, limit break as often as possible? So Lim- because limit break is a bu- is a buff, um, and the f- and the fact that between, that you do full heal between encounters, um, trying to, trying to race to limit [00:56:00] break all the time isn't as beneficial as it may sound. Um, I just wanted to try it at least one time And any sort of... There are some ef- there are some effects that, aside from Oracle, that let you do that kind of, um, that kind of risk thing. Um, obviously one of the big examples is gonna be Dark Knight, who Okay when they're using Soul Eater, they can add a die of any size, aside from D20, their d- to their damage. However, whatever that additional die rolled, they ta- they take in direct HP reduction Yeah, I love it Oh In the s- in the same... There's a similar thing that works for, um, paladin when it comes to cover. Or not when it Right when it comes to paladin's oath. They can add that Oh, okay to their defenses, but the next t- but the next time they're targeted with an attack and that [00:57:00] attack is a miss, whatever that bonus they got from that die was, they take in, um, reduction Which I felt the theme of sacrifice that's a, that is key to the paladin identity I think so too. I also like that it's a foil, in a sense, for Dark Knight. There's a lot of threads in these classes that are really fun to pull at when you start getting into it. I can tell a lot of heart and passion has gone into making this. Mm-hmm. So I guess the next question with that, this is probably my last question, or it's like a little series of questions. But have you thought... Because Final Fantasy, like when we played, the story was great, and the adventure was super fun, and everything that you made I really loved. Also, though, Final Fantasy is like often thought of as a very combat-heavy series. Have you thought about [00:58:00] doing some kind of like PVP tournament where it's just like build your biggest, baddest team and fight against people online? And, you know, you've, you have, you have like a tournament series that's, you know, like you schedule once a week to you and your party fight somebody else. Or having that kind of thing, but then like for bosses, where it's like you and your friends build a team, you know, once a week you fight against some mega boss. You're not really intended to win, but, you know, it can be like a little bit of a competition thing for the community sort of thing. Just curious if you thought about these kind of things. I have given them some thought, and the idea of, of, um, PVP I, I would not advise because it really is built with the idea of the party has its own particular set of mechanics and the NPCs and their, Got it have their own particular set of mechanics opposite them. It's... I've, I [00:59:00] remember, I remember going through a bunch of, a bunch of games in the mid-2000s that ha- that did the whole PCs and NPCs are built the same way, and I, I don't wanna do that, um, Sure, sure becau- because it... I feel like it would fall back into that same n- into that sameness that we talked about earlier. Mm-hmm. Mmhmm on the other hand, the i- the idea of competitively going up, going up against a certain boss, um, that I'd be a, that'd be a little bit more willing to go with. Um, it would certainly, it would certainly fit alongside some of the um, style video games that we, that we've seen over the last few years, stuff like, um, stuff like Dead by Daylight or the Friday the 13th game, for example. Or even the battle mode, uh, multiplayer entry that was in Doom Eternal. [01:00:00] Uh This i- this idea of asynchronous play. And the approach that I'd probably do is not a, "Oh, this is a, this is a, um, this is a near impossible bo- because I don't wanna revisit the trauma that people have had to deal with with certain hidden bosses in RPGs, Sure. every Tri-Ace game I've ever played. Or the, um... Are you familiar with, are you familiar with the infamy that was Absolute Virtue in Final Fantasy XI? No. No, I'm not familiar on record as one of the mo- as one of the hardest raid bosses of all time. Uh, like, it, it's just a long, long slog. Got it. I mean, that's no fun either. Yeah of course when people figured out how to beat, how to do exploits to beat it, they're like, "All right, we're gonna make him even harder." Got it. I have a special level of [01:01:00] hatred towards, Ozma as a hidden boss, mostly because he cheats. that's not Yep that's not me exaggerating. There's parts in his AI where you can completely jump his, um, ATB gauge depending I see. which is Yeah, I'm not surprised. why I Yeah the same way AI in, um, some RTS campaigns cheat Sure In, mostly in the they have unlimited resources and you don't kind of way Yeah, that's a pretty big cheat Oh. But what I'd prob- what I'd probably end up d- what I'd probably end up doing is some sort of, some sort of raid boss like enc- like encounter where beat, where, um, it's not just be- it's not just about beating the opponent, but also beating the opponent, surviving, and d- doing certain additional challenges Yeah[01:02:00] There's, I like there lot. Um, Yeah obvious- so think, think less of a raid boss in WoW and think more of, um, say a mission in Monster Hunter Yep, I'm tracking Oh. And 'cause I f- 'cause I f- I feel like doing a, doing a PVP thing is something that doesn't... It, it's certainly there in PVP. It has been in FF XI and XIV. But I feel like getting the coliseum part of the identity, you know, the coliseum mini-game that's been in multiple games, uh, the way to go about that would be to would be, would be to do something beyond just PVP, whether it be escalating monster types or, um, something that I just came up on the fly, a wager [01:03:00] system like you see in some ARPGs, where you can intentionally nerf yourself to potentially get better loot Yeah, yeah. It just comes to mind, I, and I think maybe you're totally right about this too, I mean, PVP can kinda be a feel bad thing sometimes as well. Mm-hmm. Whereas if you are even loosely competing against somebody, or maybe not even competing, but just, you know, competing against yourself to try and do X, Y, Z thing, fighting, like, a boss. I personally like competition a little bit, so maybe that could be fun. But, um, yeah, I hope you try something like that, 'cause I would, I would be in for it. I could get, I could get three other guys together, to be and we would, you yeah. see me build a s- build a separate, um, say c- say card game or s- or skirmish war Sure lean in- to lean into that instead Sure, sure Um, 'cause I feel like that would be- that would better f- fit that since [01:04:00] obviously I, even in those ca- even in, um, something like that, I still don't wanna have to deal with meta. I, Sure if you, I want, I would want to, um, I would wanna have it le- less akin to the flag or team deathmatch, and more akin to, like, big team battle in H- in Halo, for example. Sure a way, a way to experiment with the sa- with the sandb- with given sandbox, but not necessarily building it arou- around one, around one particular meta. Yeah. as I get it as- a bit of an aside, there wa- there was a incident at a, um, Yu-Gi-Oh tournament years ago where somebody in with a random ass deck and completely embarrassed everybody, and it was his first tournament. Because Oh, that's awesome. for, they were all planning for this very, very specific meta at that [01:05:00] tournament, and he wasn't playing that, so they ha- so they were basically coming in completely blind and had , and had no I love that no strategy at first to prepare for, and only got one as they adapted ov- over the, over subsequent rounds. Mm-hmm Um, it's ... Imagine, imagine a football coach spending hours watching film, only to realize he's watching film for the wrong team he's playing against Yeah, totally Oh. And I've I think that kind of thing's hilarious. I love that. yeah, I've always appreciated, um, I've always appreciated people pulling dumb stuff in games I agree. Yeah, I think it's part of the creativity and the fun and that, that's what we're talking about, right? Like, that's-- it's a role-playing game, so you can role play a character you want, not to optimize. But, Yeah um, yeah, I th- I guess we should probably wrap up here, Mm-hmm.[01:06:00] but I feel like we'll have more conversations coming up in the future. Is there anything else you want to wrap up with? Um, Or final things you wanna say, I, I should say? I will note that while it is gonna be a slow process, I am in the early stages of writing world books for Legend Edition. Cool. Um, Good to know been working on a, in a, um, not necessarily a default campaign setting, but a potential campaign setting, um, that I've codenamed Project Gaia. Um, which is do- is doing th- is doing a bit of, um, of steam pu- of steampunk with magic. It was my answer to the question of the magic versus technology motif that's often in steampunk and other speculative fiction. The answer I give is and technology are two sides of the same whole and feed into each other So, Well, that's great. mm-hmm Yeah, I'm [01:07:00] looking forward to that Oh yeah And, Well, thank you so much for coming on today then, Mildreth. It's always a pleasure. Oh, yeah I hope everybody, if you haven't tried out Legends Edition yet, you really need to. Um, I'll make sure to include a link. It is a free download for anybody who's been listening in and, you know, doesn't know anything about the project yet. Uh, it's a great game. I think you should take a look, find what class and jobs you wanna try, and, uh, yeah, let us know what you're having the most fun with with your group Mm-hmm. Oh otherwise, we will catch everybody later then Stay frosty Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's funny you said w- um, 45 minutes. We ended up going an hour and seven. Uh
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